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  1. David Frazier
    December 4, 2013 @ 12:49 pm

    Daniel, I just got this email not more than 10 minutes ago and when I went out to check out the webinar on 8.2, it said that the Webinar is over. Did you already have it? How come I missed getting email sooner. Thought I’d ask.

    David f

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  2. Daniel Park
    December 4, 2013 @ 1:15 pm

    Hi David:

    That was a previous post; the webinar actually happened a couple of weeks ago. I did send at least a couple of messages to the list alerting everyone. But no worries. I’ll edit the post to include a link to the replay.

    cheers, d.

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  3. Andrew Bates
    December 4, 2013 @ 1:51 pm

    Hi Daniel,

    You are not a patsy. You are an empathetic individual who is doubtless better off than the woman standing in the sun. You are not a fool parted from your money, and your observation that your ice cream purchase was for a luxury that was well beyond her means is certainly accurate.

    How much better a post this would have been if you had simply said that “even beggars on the street choose their location to maximize the possibility of income”. Why wouldn’t they?

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  4. Daniel Park
    December 4, 2013 @ 1:55 pm

    Thank you, Andrew. Very insightful. It’s certainly not my aim to imply that charity is a waste. That’s the polar opposite of what I believe. I do believe it should come from the heart and not a knee-jerk psychological trigger.

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  5. Darlesa Cahoon
    December 4, 2013 @ 2:00 pm

    I do think your post was interesting and I understand your focus is marketing advice, but I hate to read something that (whether intentionally or not) discourages people from feeling compassion for people who are less fortunate. Of course they’re trying to get the most money to feed their children or buy their 40 oz malt liquor or whatever. I do think your ice cream lady is very different than people who are making millions selling you junk you don’t need. I had an experience many years ago where a guy was asking for money outside of a store and feeling guilty, I went in, bought him a sandwich and then, very proud of myself, chased him down in the parking lot to give him the sandwich I had so generously bought for him. He practically knocked the sandwich out of my hand and said to me, “I don’t want your stupid sandwich, I want some money so I can go in to Burger King or somewhere and sit down!” I was really pretty angry as I went back to my office and recounted the tale to my co-workers. My boss just laughed at me and called me a sucker and ate the sandwich. I didn’t give out money to people begging after that for a long time.
    Just this past year however, I had the wonderful opportunity to be in community with some amazing homeless women during my studies at Antioch University. They have a Women’s Education Program where they offer a warm breakfast and university classes to homeless women in Seattle. Getting to know these women, really sitting and talking with them changed the way I felt about the incident with the man at the store several years before.
    I began to understand in a way I never had before that human dignity and kindness come in all sorts of shapes and sizes. That homeless people (and beggars) enjoy and need comforts just as much as anyone else and that the most freeing thing you can do is give from your heart without caring what the recipient will be spending your money on and how much money they “make” begging each day (and don’t kid yourself – if you hear a story about people getting rich that way, 99% of the time it is fiction). I give because I feel I can spare it sometimes and I give because I know someone else needs comfort whatever their circumstances are and it’s not up to me to judge whether they really need it or decide how they have to use my gift. I also still give to organizations that I know help people in need with food & shelter and necessities. Maybe that makes me a patsy, but I hope we can all tolerate being a bit of a patsy in this way.
    As it happens, I did a research project and presentation on that group for my senior project and as it happens, a portion of it was my first project in Camtasia which I posted on YouTube. As I said, it was my first, I struggled a lot with audio I’m sure you’ll recognize … lavalier mics that didn’t work, etc.( but learned a ton while I was doing it) and would like to think I can put out a more professional product today, but if anyone is interested in watching it for the content, here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3FYdxYnuvU
    And that’s my two cents for the day 🙂

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  6. Daniel Park
    December 4, 2013 @ 2:14 pm

    Thank you so much Darlesa. In retrospect, it’s clear the example I used wasn’t all that great, or perhaps I simply chose my words poorly. If I discouraged charity, it most definitely was not intentional.

    As I said, I’m routinely approached. I also routinely give (I just didn’t see the need to broadcast that in the original post). I just found it interesting that even those with zero marketing education come to learn ways of maximizing their income, regardless of whether they explicitly know the reasons.

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  7. Darlesa Cahoon
    December 4, 2013 @ 5:04 pm

    Didn’t mean to go on so Daniel! Funny I guess I wasn’t the only one who had that reaction. Glad you added clarification to your original post 🙂 From spending time with you at Bootcamp this past summer, I would already guess that you are an extremely kind person. There is just so much justification for greed in our world (certainly in the US with Black Friday just last week) that it is a topic close to my heart. Hope all is well with you.

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  8. Pete DaDalt
    December 30, 2013 @ 4:43 pm

    Daniel:

    First off, love the blog and your guide (I think this is the third version I’ve used). As for Cialdini’s material, the online marketing folks have made a living off this stuff for years. Another one in a similar vein (covering much of the same material) that’s pretty helpful is Yes!: 50 Scientifically Proven Ways to Be Persuasive (Cialdini was one of the authors).

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  9. steve hammill
    June 19, 2014 @ 3:11 pm

    Never a patsy, however, when I encounter a person truly in need, I feed them. Literally. I take them to a diner, restaurant, or someplace with food and let them eat until they have their fill and get a “go box.”

    It reminds me of a story of an old world Italian man who own a restaurant in a little town in Armstrong County, Pennsylvania. He fed bums coming into his roadside restaurant daily, but if they asked for money he’d kick ’em out. I asked him about that one day. “Why would you feed all of these bums?” and he replied, “You never know if it’s Jesus testing you.”

    Put the religious stuff aside; the sentiment is heart-warming.

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